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Comment on Fat Baby by James Marcellus

James Marcellus — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 02:14:39 +0000

Good point john, but I have to ask, what is church service for? I think to many times Christ followers think church is for them….ehhhhh…. wrong answer. Church service is the tool we need to use, to spark a fire for non believers we are inviting and witnessing to. Church service is not about “US” it is about them.

The church is like an airport…. if your not on the plane then you have arrived, the plane (aka life) has gotten you to the aiport, (AKA church) now it is up to the employees (christ followers) to provide the directions needed to find their way.(Bible teaching) But then it is time to get ready again for the next plane as new people will now arrive!!

People need to not just feed themselves, but they also have to exersize too. Otherwise we end up fat and bloated from just eating, and then die.

James 2: 20 – 24
20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[d]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[e] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.

It is time for people to feed themselves and then excersize. If we excersize then the church will be full and grow and the process will continue in a healthy circle. The process is simple, but if we just eat and nothing else, then we are missing the point. Jesus told all of us

Matthew 28:19 (19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Jesus was speaking to all of us, not just pastors or ministry leaders, or whatever you can think of. But he was talking to all. We need to remember we are already saved, so we have arrived, now to need to plan and get excitited for the next arrivals,,, as this is the Christ followers oppertunity to show not church but CHRIST!

Comment on In the church, who are the customers? by john

john — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 01:54:32 +0000

The analogy of a sales force that is out in the streets is better.

Having served on multiple large staff churches, the majority of employees are not spending their time preparing for the services. Most are providing support for the non-service ministries that happen throughout the week and off-site from the central location.

Using your analogy, even the sales force that is out building relationships outside the four walls of the building has a group of people who are back in the company office providing support.

Comment on In the church, who are the customers? by Bob Gennelli

Bob Gennelli — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 01:33:51 +0000

Ok this is interesting. You are comparing the church with a department store. OK lets look at this concept. If we look at the church today and ask the staff members, where do you spend most of your week? Most popular answer is… in meetings and staff meetings and planning meetings which dedicate several people 30-40 hours a week for what be 3 – 4 hours a week. yeah this is marketing in a department store… open it and they will come….Well that does not work at all.. in today’s business world,, the most successful business have a sales force that is out visiting prospects.. seeing existing customers for new contacts in their company and turning them into prospects and begin the sales pipeline process. Another word for this is relational evangelism, but to build relationships outside the 4 walls of a building.
This is the proven model that makes corporations multi billion dollar companies, because they get a sales force sold out for their product and take pride in their company that they want to meet people and begin sharing what they have to offer.. and how it will benefit their life and company. So lets not be a department store church, let’s be a church with a strong sales force, truly growing the kingdom of God

Comment on Teams : Complement or Compensate by Robert Wilson

Robert Wilson — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:39:31 +0000

thanks for the post